Best Source on the Web for Converting Model A
Brakes to Hydraulic
Model A modern style backing plate from MT Auto
Products of California
Do yourself a favor and get
some of these for your Model A front brakes. They are far superior to
40 Ford front backing plates. 40 Ford rears are OK as not so much
braking is done on the back. I thought they would bolt
right on. Well, sort of. The instructions say to cut off the top
of the king pins which the wheel cylinder interferes with. That did
not appeal to me so I filed in new mounting holes with the backing plate
tilted slightly to the rear. Oh well, the story of my Model A life!
These backing plates work great. I love em.
Some parts for this setup:
Wheel cylinder: Raybestos WC4809
Wheel cylinder rubber kit: WK21
Front brake shoes: Wagner PAB340
Rear brake
shoes:Raybestos 340PG
Just done! I modified the MT Products battery box to
accept a safer dual Master Cylinder
555-631405 from JEGS. This is a universal MC.
This is much better than the single one supplied by the vendor.
I
putdiscbrakeson
the front of my mostly stock 28 RPU. I got some 42 square back front
spindles and a kit from ECI to put 90 Ford rotors and 87 Chevy calipers on.
The kit supplies a bearing spacer for the spindle and new bearings and
seals. 1 also had to buy a new steering arm, 40 style tie rods, and cool 40
wheels with moon hubcaps. I could still use the Model A drag link.
I'm including a front brake holdoff valve from Speedway so the rear bendixbrakesgrab
first. If that is not enough, I'll install an adjustable proportioning
valve.
One other thing. This change costs slightly less than buying the MT Car
Products new bendix style backing plates for the front. $450 for the backing
plates plates.
This is before I've done the final welding.
I used a piece of angle I had lying around
Hydraulic Brakes for a Model A Ford
The usual disclaimer: This is how I did
the conversion. This is only my opinion. You are on your own if you do
it like I did!
Required parts:
Brake hoses for front: BH188215, SBH1001 (V8 hose is too
short)
Brake hose for radius rods to frame: BH111139/38210
Front/rear backing plates/shoes and drums/hubs from 40/48
Ford. These will be used parts.
40/48 rear wheel bearings
Front spacing rings and front bearing spacing rings
available from Model A parts house
40/48 master cylinder/wheel cylinders
40/48 Grease seals for front/rear
Steel plugs to weld into front backing plate mounting
bolt holes.
New emergency brake cable and part to attach to Model A
brake shaft
Brake tubes. The first time I did this conversion I
purchased pre-formed tubes for a lot of money from MT Products and was glad
to. The second time I save a lot of money and bent standard length
tubes myself. When the tubes were too long, I bent a jog in the tubing
so I wouldn't have to cut and flare. Try it, you can do it too!
40/42 backing plates(46/48 also work) front on left (cleaned
up and painted)
and rear on right (before cleanup)
Note the top cams for adjusting the brakes.
Front backing plate with mounting bolt holes
filled with steel plugs
Front spacer installed on front backing
plate with new mounting bolt holes drilled
There is also a bearing spacing ring required for the front hub
40/42 Style bottom brake adjustment
pieces for bottom adjusters
New battery box with master cylinder on the side.
40/42 front brake drum, 46/48 work
also
Front backing plate mounted using original Model A grease retainer ring
and Model A wheel bearings
Model A brake drum showing raised area next to hub to support wheel
Model A wheel showing where the support ring is required. See the
area between the lug holes and the center hole.
Support rings are available for 40/48 drums which don't have the raised
area to support Model A wheels.
An area must be ground out on the rear backing plates for spring shackle
clearance
Rear backing plate. The original mounting holes can be used if the
plate is installed without rotating it like some suggest. Note
that the lip on the rear plates have been ground down about 1/8inch.
About 1/16inch was also ground off the shoes.
Rear drum. 3/16 inch must be ground off the drum as shown by the
shiny cut ring below:
You have to grind off the bleeder screw for the rear wheel cylinders.
Right rear from behind. You
also have to grind a little off of the shock absorber mounting bracket,
but not much.
Left rear from behind
Right rear
Left rear
Left and right rear tee off to a hose
Note: this piece that pulls on the brake rods has to
be taken off for the hydraulic hoses to fit to the Wilton battery box
master cylinder.
From tee to master cylinder
Master cylinder tees off to front
Brake hose
for radius rods to frame: BH111139/38210
Right front
A collection of the brake pieces
Right Rear
Left Rear
Dave Wilson Battery Box
Front of Wishbone
Left Front: brake hose
BH188215/BH4497, SBH1001 (V8 hose is too
short)
Right Front:: brake hose
BH188215/BH4497, SBH1001 (V8 hose is too
short)
Master Cylinder
Right Rear emergency brake
Left Rear emergency brake
I've just discovered another way to
put hydraulics on a Model A, use Ford F100 53-56 11inch bendix
backing plates and drums. Bummer, it works but you can't use 35
Ford wire wheels though. You could use some later wheels and put
some nice moon hubcaps on them for a cool look. 40 Ford 12 inch backing
plate on left and F100 11 inch backing plate, brakes, and drum on right.
This conversion requires some cheap adaptors, bearing spacing ring and
backing plate spacer for the front backing plates, same as required for
40 Ford backing plates, about $15 at model a parts houses.